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Is porn a threat to kids?

To watch people shagging or not to watch people shagging, that is the question...
By Marlon Abrahams

Pic: Dare

Article originally in Parent24
So DSTV is causing a rumpus with its proposal to have a porn channel on its bouquet of viewing services.

Kids are so clever, they’ll figure out how to access the porn,’ said one caller to a radio show.

‘With all the sexual abuse going on, we have to keep our homes free of anything that incites this kind of thing’ said another.

What utter kak, I thought. Sexual abuse, bestiality, deviant sexual behaviour, you name it, it has been around since the beginning of time, and will continue to be around long after we’re gone.

The truth of the matter is, that the same people who are going out to buy or rent porn movies, will probably be the ones who subscribe to the porn channel. And there really is nothing wrong with getting jiggy with a consenting partner to Debbie Doing Dallas, or even Dirty Dancing, if that blows your skirt up.

Any responsible parent would go to great lengths to protect their kids from inappropriate viewing, such as violence and of-course explicit sex. Bottom line is, if you want a porn channel in your home and you have kids, take responsibility for your actions. Make sure it’s a win-win situation for you and the kids: you get to enjoy some voyeuristic fun with the missus and the kids never ever, ever, ever find out. It can be done!

As for the screaming (pardon the pun) masses out their clamouring for the channel not to see the light of day - just don’t subscribe. We have to maintain the right of choice in our society, and to allow the fear of child abuse to deny responsible parents perfectly acceptable choices, is not an option in my book.

My point is, stopping a porn channel, is not going to help sexual abuse in any way whatsoever. Do you think the porn channel would have turned Advocate Barbie into a bigger freak? Hell no, she’s as freaky as they come and got up to her dastardly deeds without the help of DSTV.

Take responsibility for your own household! We had this kind of outcry when Scope Magazine dropped the stars on nipples, then when we decided to sell alcohol on Sundays, then when Hustler went full penetration. Whatever your issues are with porn, the bottom line is that these events have none or very little impact on child abuse.

Sadly, child abuse is the domain of the deranged and deviant mind, and the existence or lack of a porn channel will make no difference to this filthy legacy of mankind.

Do you think there’s a connection between porn and sexual abuse?

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Matilda's Online Shop

6/16/2010 9:05 PM

We agree - it's about respecting each other. Sex is beautiful and fun. It's not porn or sex toys that make people lose respect - it's their character. If anything, being sexually open with your partner (like using sex aids or adult toys together) would normally bring people closer. They can experiment and play together - rathar than being abusive. Nice one Marlon!

Actually...

4/30/2010 2:41 PM

Rebecca's story sounds very sad and all, but if you read it carefully, it's NOT her story. In fact, Rebecca doesn't exist - it's an anti-porn essay, written specifically to jerk your heart-strings and make you think porn is bad, and is about as truthful as any of the penny-horrible bodice-ripper stories that inspired the writer's (dreadful) writing-style. The best part is how you were all (mostly - some people on here ARE actually quite intelligent - big ups to you!) taken in by this blatant proaganda bullsh1t.

Leigh-Anne

3/9/2010 2:28 PM

I simply don't understand the outcry. From what I've heard, the porn won't even be that good. You people can moan about it all you like. The real deviants don't subscribe to TV porn. It's watered-down soft porn for mommies and daddies wanting to add a little spice. The real deviants, like me, download instead.

Melissa

3/8/2010 1:27 PM

I have to agree with the Hot White Chick and Michel.

Jeremy Clarkson's take

3/8/2010 11:51 AM

Seems Jeremy Clarkson's not wild about a few people's adverse reactions, causing the rest of the world to be denied freedom of choice either read about it here http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/comment/columnists/jeremy_clarkson/article7052392.ece

Badger

3/5/2010 8:10 AM

@ BADBONES, read Rebecca's story, "YOU F^&%$(*# FREAK. Don't have kids, cause you will abuse them, boys or girls !!!!!

Get Real

3/3/2010 4:20 PM

@rebecca, your story is sad indeed and without belittling your experience in any way, I would wager that there is a similar story along every kind of vice imaginable. Its one of the points the writer makes in his story regarding abuse being around forever and a day. On the flip side there are perfectly normal reactions to nudidty and consensual porn, not everyone who enjoys porn is depraved, and again, that's the key to this article, its about having the choice. When we start denying people who can handle something because of others who can't, that's when society really goes downhill. Should we ban alcohol because some people abuse it? Its a simple example, but the other side of the coin is that porn to some people, is as innocent as watching a raunchy soap opera for others. Why should responsible parents suffer at the hands of the monsters in your story?

Mariek Pelser

3/3/2010 11:22 AM

Bit-chi, men learn respect from their parents. Their parents set an example. So if the father does not respect women, the son won't either. Whether they watch porn or not. This is an age old dilemma. Didn't start with porn!

Mariek Pelser

3/3/2010 11:19 AM

Hear, hear! Lets respect each others choices. Lets not start with sensure again. This is a wonderful opportunity to chat to your kids about your values around porn, respect etc. Viva la Difference! And please get it.... it will be an extra subscription, again your choice!

Sick

3/3/2010 7:09 AM

@CtheB - this has nothing to do with the bible or christianity. It's a matter of values and morals you twit!

Owami

3/2/2010 11:45 PM

Great article. I totally agree, don't subscribe if you don't want porn. My man and I watch porn occassionally to spice things up. It certainly hasn't made us sexual predators, and the kids haven't been exposed to it either. If you want a frigid life, help yourself. Don't judge those of us who are responsible citizens who enjoy porn now and again. Bring it on Multichoice.

ab

3/2/2010 9:34 PM

Unfortunately, our culture calls pornography adult entertainment, or adult material. People of all faiths abhor pornography and regard it as unlawful. Moreover, it is shameless, degrading, morally wrong and symptomatic of a sick mind. Pornography should be banned as a risk to women because it dehumanises women into becoming sexual objects. Women in pornographic pictures or films are required to perform in demeaning ways, leading individuals into believing that this is the way that women like to be treated. Pornography should not be transmitted or broadcasted into millions of homes. It is not about rights or censorship. It is about respecting and protecting the rights of all of us to live in a safe, decent and moral society. As a community we have the right to live in a normal family environment, not one poisoned by pornography. Such immoral films damages and destroys the family unit, the recognized source of a stable society. Agreed, there are many other more prevailing influences on adolescent sexual development, however, teenagers are especially vulnerable to the messages that are broadcast on television. Television messages undoubtedly play a major part in helping not only to inform the young mind, but also to cultivate their ideas of what other folks their age are thinking, saying and doing. In the end it is the duty of every parent to monitor what his or her child is watching. I humbly appeal and request the directors of Multichoice to reconsider their intentions.

No to Porn

3/2/2010 7:53 PM

Problem with porn is there is no innocence. at the very least it teaches selfishness, portrays a fictitious world and life that none or at least very few live. It draws you in by what you think is healthy curiosity, so sad. Of course people can choose, my objection is that your choice affects me. Your child may meet my child, I hope I have taught my child to resist and to be bigger than yours. Rebecca I pray for you too. It is so sad to see the ho-hum reactions to your real life story. It is sad to read, but I'm sure it was worse to live through. Love, warmth, trust and affection are real and I wish you all these things. I thank God that I was kept from this, because I am and was not immune. I just managed to avoid it somehow. People who watch porn regularly are drawn into that surreal world. They think that they are exercising their right to freedom, (I agreed in the time Scope had stars) No matter how strong and independent you think you are, you are influenced by what you are surrounded with. Stop to think, what do you see there that is so radical and mind blowing (assuming of course that all you watch is tame).

CTheB

3/2/2010 5:47 PM

@Sick - that's a nice story, but we're talking about reality here. It started out innocent enough, after all, Christianity seemed like such a loving religion. He used to chastise those he found breaking the rules of the Bible. But the more he read the more he saw that there were all sorts of rules about who should die for breaking the other rules. Next thing we knew he was killing people in the name of religion. By your logic anyone reading the Bible is clearly going to start murdering people, so we shouldn't allow Christianity. Just because you can make up links between the dots doesn't suddenly make the links real.

Janine

3/2/2010 5:28 PM

truely believe that the woman in these movies actually have a choice... They decide to act in them... to do the things they do... They are the ones that have decided that they will rather sell sex than a hairdryer... All you who think that porn makes woman look cheep... think again... what about the men??? Why does this not make them cheap... By saying what you are saying about these woman you are doing EXACTLY what you are accusing the industry of doing... Once again porn comes down to personal choice... if you are watching it... or if you are acting in it....

Beep

3/2/2010 3:56 PM

@ rebecca. That was very hard to read. There is nothing I can say except that the Lord is very real. Why this was allowed to happen to you I could never answer. This is not the forum for a religious debate but I will pray so hard for you to find peace. I do not know your beliefs but if just for a moment you ask the Lord to help you through your suffering he will.

Dirk Prinsloo

3/2/2010 3:28 PM

Nothing in this argument I havent heard before, please be more original!

rebecca

3/2/2010 3:11 PM

I have found the writing of this article very hard. I have had to reassess my image of my past. I had to live in a household where the viewing of hard-core porn was the norm. This did me great damage. Part of the damage is that I have lost a great deal of my memory. I get memories through my body. I can see my past in nightmares. I can remember when watching TV. Watching good acting forces back buried memories. I can feel fear – only it has no name. Then, I choose to be invisible. From the age of eight to twenty-seven I chose not to live. I had lived with hard-porn from the time I was eight. Hustler entered my life when I was eleven. I found that it suffocated me with fear. Now, I wish to face Hustler in the eye, and to stand tall. There was a time when I was a happy child. A time I thought that I was free. A time when the adults around me were trustworthy. There was a time when I could wander ’round naked. There was a time when I was a child. Nothing more — nothing less. I see that time as a dream. Sometimes, I stare at photos of me then. I wonder if any of it was true. My stepdad enter my life when I was eight. He adored porn, the more violent the better. He came with images from sex-murders. Images of children doing things I didn’t want to know. He was a member of PIE [Paedophile Information Exchange, UK]. When he came, I changed. He made me look at the images. It burnt through my brain. When I closed my eyes, it rotted in my body. When Hustler came, I lost hope. All I knew was despair. All I saw was pain, only now it was with a smile. It made no sense. I got headaches. I lost my sight. I was closing down. All I heard was my stepdad’s laughter. He was laughing — as I shook with terror. Then, I saw “Chester the Molester”. Then I knew I could not fight. In those cartoons, I saw my fate. I looked and I wanted to die. In those images, I saw my fear, my humiliation and my pain. Only, they were just a joke. I felt sick. I had forgotten how to laugh. I was learning to freeze my emotions. Looking back, I see those cartoons for what they are. I had entered a world where children were property. They were always available for sex. They would never complain. Like the women in the hard-core porn, the children knew their place. They would learn to smile when in pain. When I saw “Chester the Molester” I was taught that sex was pain and fear. I learnt that it was inevitable I would be raped, beaten and threaten. For, after I learnt that the world belong to the rapist. I knew resistance was futile. I survived by closing down my visual imagination. I thought it was a short-term solution, but it lasted for the rest of my life. Even when I relax I cannot escape into places that I have loved. Hard-core pornography has taken away my dreams. My stepdad begun abusing me when I twelve. His abuse was gentle and calm. It was not as I had expected, it felt as if it was an accident. I thought that I was lucky since I was not dead or being tortured. I thought I had done something to make him touch me. Hustler had taught how to be abused. I was now obeying my stepdad. I had stopped thinking that I could say no. As the abuse became more and more painful, as I became more and more degraded it all became clearer. I know the rules now. Only, it made no sense. For, I could not understand why he keep saying that he loved me. How that be true, when he threw me into hell. Now, I see he spoke the language of hard-core porn. Always linking pain with pleasure. Speaking of how it was fine to have sex with kids. Telling me that it was only society’s conventions that say that it is wrong. He made me believe that I received pain because I had moved. Every time he made me cum, he would say that I was a whore. I see now that I was his live porn. When I was fourteen I had given up. I had decided that all I deserved was pain. I knew I was just a whore. I had been brainwashed by hard-core porn. I went blindly into the world of paid sex. At the time, I felt it was my decision — only I knew nothing. I went towards men that used extreme sexual and physical violence. In that world, I found my place. The familiar place that I had seen in Hustler’s photo-shoots. I thought I was hardened. I had forgotten that I was still a child. I thought I understood the rules of the game. But I was so wrong. I did not know that each time that they hit me that I would go into shock. I did not know that each time that they raped me, I would feel pain. And I had no idea that men could hate women with such intensity. I thought I was street-wise. I was a child screaming to be rescued. In their beds, I was an object. My eyes were dead. I had become just holes to be filled. Now, I had reached the beginning of my pain. Now, I was part of porn. I had no feelings left. My safety was not relevant. Seeing me then, I can see the dead eyes in the Hustler’s photo-shoots. I can understand that look. It is the look where hope is forgotten. For hope will only bring pain. To believe in hope, will only mean facing the reality of the violence that i was living through. Then I may kill myself. That time, was a different life to the one I live now. I know it is part of me, but I see it through a haze. My past made me strong and gave me a great deal of compassion. Now I feel some contentment for my life is low-key. I was changed by having hard-core porn forced into my life. I can never regain the open trust I had before I was eight. I am still wary of my own sexuality. Hard-core porn placed an underlying depression in me. I still fight the desire to go back to violence when I am depressed. After all, violence was my norm. I am building a non-violent world around myself, but I find it very hard. For I cannot understand the rules of a safe life. Each day, I am learning that I am more than a whore. I see now, that was never true. It was just the lies that hard-core porn placed in my brain. I live in the hope that one day, somehow, all women and children will be safe from the hated of hard-core porn.

Beep

3/2/2010 2:59 PM

@CLINTONV, you have a fair comment on sexual needs and desires and the need to embrace and explore this side of ourselves with our partners. But please explain how watching a young woman being screwed everywhich way is healthy for your mind, body and soul and exaclty what it adds to a relationship???? I just find it so sad. Please do not tell me that a person being fimed while getting plugged in all orifices is left with a scrap of dignity afterwards. Because that is what porn does and this is what I do not believe we should support!!!!!!!! I am all for erotica. ie, furry handcuffs and a bit of fun with the wife. I also see the value in sexy literature and sex aids. For the record I am a dude (married) and am quite gutted to have come across as frigid. I do enjoy sex (but not with batteries, being a guy and all) But thank you for your comments. You are the first pro-porner to engage with frigid ol me although I still do not support your argument.

Clive H

3/2/2010 2:51 PM

And Dirk, I suppose you and your wife are thinking about what you just looked at and not each other that’s why you need that rubbish... its still adultery of the mind!! Read what some of the ex porn actresses say about the industry, that they are vomiting between scenes over what they have been made to do… check out Shelley Lubben an ex ‘star’ and read the truth. Also understand that this us$97billion dollar industry is mostly controlled by organised crime syndicates and are also into human trafficking as well as gambling, drugs and weapon smuggling. That’s who you are supporting when you buy into this rubbish… it’s all a lie, make believe but with consequences on both sides of the camera. If you say it does nothing to you then you are seriously misguided cause then you are basically saying that the billions spent on advertising by some pretty sharp businessmen is having no effect on the consumers?! I think not… See if you can go without it for 3 or 4 months then see if you are maybe becoming a bit dependant on it?! I wonder if you can get along without it?? [regards to all in Belarus?]

Dirk Prinsloo

3/2/2010 2:25 PM

1. Go to the Scandinavian countries and study what happened there and how they are managing porn since the 50's. 2. Go to www.private.com and buy quality porn for you and the wife, you can pick and choose and stay away from the anal, bondage and crap. 3. Go to www.matildas.co.za and realise there is a place for it in a 19 year marriage. 4. Be open with your kids, their friends know MUCH more than you think so it is YOUR responsibility to give them the picture you want them to see. 5. Missionary can become boring.

Badbones

3/2/2010 2:23 PM

I LOVE PORN !!!!!!

Clintonv @ Beep and everyone else Frigid

3/2/2010 1:59 PM

Who ever has a sister, mother, daughter or male counter part is in these movies, its a living. You make it sound like you are Frigid!!! Sex is a part of life, if you don't enjoy it get a new man...or FRESH batteries!!! Maybe I am wrong but maybe you are jealous that you are not fulfilled sexually and think this is wrong, but we all have desires and needs. I don't really enjoy full out porn, but erotica is a must. So why deny it exists? Brace it and explore your sexual being

aajj

3/2/2010 1:52 PM

How about doing some research before you raise your opinion on the future of our kids. "Do you think the porn channel would have turned Advocate Barbie into a bigger freak?" Give you 50 guesses what they founds lots of at Barbie and Dirks's pad? Would you support your daughter if she goes into this industry? you know she wouldn't don't you because she has your support - what does that say about the girls that are in these movies?

@Arno

3/2/2010 1:51 PM

Thanks, very interesting read...

Dan

3/2/2010 1:45 PM

I am completely against it. If a man has to watch a porn movie to get into the mood for his wife then I would question his love towards his wife. If he has to watch porn in order to please his wife better, then it's not coming from himself and would any wife like the idea that while they're making love the husband is thinking about someone else. That's why there's such allot of young boys who has a wrong perception of women and so many young girls who end up pregnant with the daddy no where to be found. To those other comments about choice and movies they watched if you think it's so right then why are you ashamed of admitting that you watch porn let me tell you why because you know it's sick. Guys lets appreciate and respect women for they are and what God has intended them to be. Remember the wheel turns and you sow you will reap - You watch porn, and your children will end watching it as well, then what.

Some wisdom

3/2/2010 1:45 PM

Thank you Beep! Someone with some sense. It is not about a religion condemning the act or sin, it is about values and morals (our country is backsliding as it is). Simple right and wrong is what this comes down to and anyone saying this is a non-issue is already proven wrong by the amount of debate it has sparked. If porn was such a non-issue then it would be as freely available and under-regulated as 18+ Hollywood releases which substitute nudity and sex for violence. But it's not freely available and no parent would encourage their child/teenager to watch porn (keep in mind most kids learned about the birds and the bees from their friends at a very young age). So go ahead, support those who employ/force 18-year old girls to have sex with men double their age from dusk to dawn. What if your daughter/son is in a porn movie? Do you try to make yourself feel better that the participants are their because they want to be? Non-issue eh?

hans Jacob bernardus

3/2/2010 1:36 PM

Well said Beep. Wonder what these defenders of animal - like behaviour whould say if they see their own children or even maybe their parents acting in some of these movies? Anyone defending this promiscuous acts just reveals themselves as people who never really grew up! Lust, lust , lust, destroys many people`s lives daily and will destroy the lives of many others to come. Poor pathetic creatures, will they ever understand?

Beep

3/2/2010 1:26 PM

@ ALL THE MEN OUT THERE. WINSTON CHURCHILL (I THINK) ONCE SAID THAT THE WAY FOR EVIL TO PROSPOR IS FOR GOOD MEN TO STAND BY AND DO NOTHING. Porn veiwing might not be instrimental to abuse. But porn manufacturing is. So, if as a man you believe you should protect woman and children. Do not watch or support porn. If not then it says alot about the kind of person you are. By the way, I have seen the type content of porn being considered by DSTV and it is NOT fun amature husband and wife fooling around in front of the web cam type stuff. It is gang banging, hardcore content that in no way portrays woman to be in any sort of control or to maintain any dignity whatsoever.

Beep

3/2/2010 1:10 PM

@ Stormy Daniels. You still did not answer my question!!! would you support the industry if it was your mother, daughter, son or sister doing the performing. simple question but still no-one going to anwer it. Yes, some woman are there happily by choice. I would love to know which of these woman grew up wanting to be subjected to men aplenty making a mess all over there faces for our veiwing pleasure. show me a porn scene that does.nt end this way You go sister! Show us your self worth!!! The fact that you feel a porn actress had no higher aspirations shows how much value you place on a womans self worth. Sad Sad Sad.

Zee

3/2/2010 12:49 PM

The sad part is we in Africa cant embrace each persons sexuality and nudity because we are not well educated and cultured. Yes, when the majority see a naked women, they want to rape her etc. We a pathetic nation who cant see that other nations can stand naked to each other and not touch them. Here, we will be too scared to even think that. Why, this is Africa. Highest number of rapes in the world, highest people living with Aids. etc. And yes, I totally agree with the writer of the article, if you have a problem, just keep quiet and do not subscribe. Not body is interested in your ranting or hearing about your sad sex life. We as adults have a choice. So if we want to watch it, we wont be forcing you into our homes to watch. People complaining should be more concerned about crime in this country. That results in people getting injured and killed. Why no outcry to the government for that? Because you know they wont listen. So we wont listen to you complaining. Lock your kids up if you think they cleverer than you. You can have a password/ code to access these channels. It will be your own stupidity if your kids can find that code because you leave it on a note or on your phone.

Vanman

3/2/2010 12:23 PM

There is no connection between porn and voilent crimes. Look at Hanniball - the red dragon. There was a guy watching normal family movies, getting a hard on , because he was imagining his crimes already. If one uses porn as the scapegoat, there is one counter idea for you. After all, it is a country of choice. You choose to watch it, or you choose to go without. No one is forcing you do do anything in life, so stop complaining.

all crap

3/2/2010 12:22 PM

sexual abuse has a lot to do with choices and other factors which include childhood abuses in whatever circumstances it happened, porn simply makes one lust more and more for sex and can create cheating and some other wacko ideas but to suggest it creates havoc in society thats horseshit. in every 2minutes or 5 or one minute a woman is rapped and there is no porn on dstv. the world is a rotting place anyway whatever happens its still a doomed crappy world - face it!!

Jean-Jacques

3/2/2010 12:20 PM

I agree, lets not get stupid and claim the moral high ground. We are all sexual beings, or perhaps some really don't get any, shame then go back to your Bible. The choice remains the consumers as our wonderful democracy allows. So lets get on to the really important issues and save jobs and human dignity instead of moaning like a bunch of conservatist old wets!

annalisa

3/2/2010 12:13 PM

Excellent article, Marlon. Our children are more seriously threatened by (un)conscious domestic violence and verbal abuse, with their own parents as the main actors (not to mention what's generally, freely available on tv at any time of the day and without any pin-control) than what we might decide to watch on tv when they’re not around!

Paul Bethke

3/2/2010 11:31 AM

Well with Australia and their 5200 naked people wanting to expose themselves and wanting to have a porn channel on DSTV. As has been said porn has been around for many centuries..... When there were no movies they indulged in live acts known in the Bible as under every spreading tree…… Now when the judgement that God has prescribed comes upon people who indulge in this corruption, they will know why…... This means that the next generation will become even more wicked than this one, justifying this sort of behaviour……. So certainly we are in the final stages of corruption.

Clive H

3/2/2010 11:19 AM

Let me start by asking the question, what good does porn do in or for society? Absolutely nothing! My opinion is if 'you and the missus' need porn to help you along them maybe you should seek professional medical help... or maybe even the little blue pill of hoe? What help or expertise can porn be or offer if there is an underlying problem? Maybe its a bit sad if your partner no longer turns you on anymore, just a thought. If you truly believe that there is no link between porn and abuse please see the research done (over 20+ yrs) by guys like prof Robert Jensen and or Dr Victor Kline. Mainstream porn today is so violent, cruel and degrading to women and the language used i.e. bitches, sluts and ho's (the rest can't be used in this forum) is tantamount to hate speech towards women. In porn today women are reduced to being 3 orifices and a pair of hands! Further, it is a know fact that porn is used to groom children into a life of abuse and abusing. Having it in the home makes this all so much easier. It only needs an older brother or an inattentive parent, or a parent who doesn't care or says they are old enough at 14 o.n.o. to know about these things for children to gain access to still more sexually explicit material. Please remember that it was ruled in the CT high court last year'ish by Justice Le Grange that the right to freedom of expression cannot override the right to a persons dignity. We need to all be party to protecting the women and children's right to dignity even before we think of our 'rights' to watch and masturbate or whatever. Lets all get the facts and information out there to make a more informed decision. Remember studies (by FOF) show porn is a more difficult addiction to break than a cocaine addiction and you never know how it will affect you until it's too late.

Mark

3/2/2010 11:05 AM

Thank you, somebody that actually sees the light. i have two kids, yes they are clever, but if done in a correct manner the kids wont be able to watch. for those people bitching and moaning dont watch the porn or dont take out a subscription for the chanel, get over yourselves you pathetic people. brilliant article...

Stormy Daniels

3/2/2010 10:43 AM

@beep, oh do shut up, have you heard of Stormy Daniels? Or seen any of the big budget stuff these days. Women are doing the shagging in these movies. And I sometimes feel sorry of the hapless men in the movies. The porn industry has come a long way since the blatant exploitation of the 70's and 80's. Go buy some new stuff and learn something. They even use condoms these days! And the glaring point of the article is that this kinda thing will never change, thank God its becomming more responsible. Sisters are doing it for themselves, stop portraying us as helpless victims, we decide who to shagg and who shaggs us!

@Rob

3/2/2010 10:31 AM

Rob honey, the scenario you describe is a fact, however, there is another side to the porn industry. Go have a look at some of the new titles, these guys are turning our high production, big budget, epic movies, where "actress" and "actors" are treated like royalty, have their own trailers etc. The porn industry has changed, many of the men and women who work in it these days, do so out of choice and get paid exceedingly well for it. There are annual porn awards for example. Careful who you start calling ignorant.

Beep

3/2/2010 10:27 AM

@ Rob, agree with you 100%. To all the advocates of watching porn....not one of you has had the courage to answer my earlier post. There is no decent man or woman who would want ther child to be a sex actress. So very hypocritical of you all. I say again. If you watch it you promote its manufacture. @ Wazza, get real dude. How in good conscience do you and your wife watch the abuse of young woman for your pleasure. I have watched porn before and the moment I started seeing the blank sadness in the eyes of the performers did I finally get a reality check. I will say again that there is a difference between a good clean karma surtra instruction (I have the one from CNA) if you are looking to spice up a marraige than watching proffesionally produced porn that is only driven by profit. (profit=exploitation) Happy viewing, I hope you fully understand what you support. God Bless.

Sibongiseni Buthelezi

3/2/2010 10:01 AM

Greatest articlei ever read. some of as the use it as there bread-winnig because the are the ophains

Rob

3/2/2010 9:58 AM

It seems that you are ignorant or choose to deny the real exploitation, abuse and degradation of women that occurs in the making of pornography. Pornography is an aspect of the prostitution trade and is beset with all the issues that accompany that trade. The raw ingredients, mostly teen female bodies, are drawn from the same pool as prostitutes and come overwhelmingly from dysfunctional, poverty stricken abuse ridden backgrounds. Std's are rife as condoms are not used and the actual process of making the porn takes days and womens bodies are take to the limits of physical endurance. A large portion of porn these days is simply the acting out of contempt against women and constitutes, apart from all else, hate speech against women. In fact if you were to remove all porn from stores where the women are referred to as bitch, slut whore or c*nt there would be almost nothing left. I see most of the porn industry cheerleaders here are men. I suggest you read Robert Jensen on the subject ( access on net), educate yourselves, and start to show some empathy and respect for the dignity and physical and sexual integrity of women.

control seeker

3/2/2010 9:58 AM

I want to know if all who is againt porn on tv (controlled by a pin) owns a internet connection ,because the porn on the net has no control. Even porn on a cellphone is easily down- loaded with- out parental control. I'm not for porn ,but if it can be controlled in some way, let people who want it ,have a choise to see it.

Claude

3/2/2010 9:56 AM

I disagree, Watching porn affects you. Your personality, your attitude and everything about you. It affects the way you think, you relationship with friends, family, boy/girlfriend. Watching people having sex introduces more extreme porn, to a point where you so addicted it takes over your life. It is a part of life, and when this happens your thoughts toward woman and children change. You start doing things you shouldnt. It is a known fact. I am not talking of a christian or religious point of view. Look at all the statistics, look at all abusers in the world. Where does it start. With an innocent porn channel. Then the internet, then more hardcore stuff, then extreme extreme stuff. Plenty of doctors and psychologist will tell you that this stuff has a big affect. Men especially, men are very visual beings. That why men cheat, thats why children are easy targets etc. Porn kills you from the inside out, without you even knowing.

Wazza

3/2/2010 9:45 AM

If there was more porn around there might be less shaggin of goats and other animals. Porn has done wonders for our (my wife and I) sex lives. I'm going to get the subscription for sure. To all those against it - you partners are probably getting it (a good shag) from someone else!

@Kevin

3/2/2010 9:43 AM

I take it you are a frequent porn watcher and you would just love a porn channel on Dstv, because then your life would be a little more exciting! At least you have your hand.........

Stu

3/2/2010 9:36 AM

COuldn't agree more. Those that are outraged just don't need to subscribe. There is no woman abuse increase due to porn. If that was the case then every sex shop would be closed down cause if i want it trust me i can get it, on the net or shops. @sick - Funny how the righteous people are often the ones caught with their pants down....

Douglas

3/2/2010 9:33 AM

Brilliant article, well said. @Sick! are you kidding me, if you smoke, the nicotine is a gateway drug or stepping stone to mainline heroin, and dont even get me started on painkillers, pop a few Panado's today and in a weeks time you are selling porn to afford your morphine addiction. Grow up, as Marlon so rightly pointed out you dont want the porn then dont subscribe. Only a total whack job would try to blame porn on being a sexual deviant.

Arno

3/2/2010 9:33 AM

Famed serial killer, Ted Bundy differs from your expert opinion. I'd rather take his word since he's been there: http://everything2.com/title/The+Last+Interview+with+Ted+Bundy

Vuyo

3/2/2010 9:16 AM

I agree with both sides actually: I have no problem with porn as long as it's viewed by consenting adults - it's really not my business and since you can choose to subscribe or not it shouldn't be this big an issue But, I can understand the concerns of people who think that pornographic material is too freely available. If you are someone with sadistic/abusive/misogynistic tendencies, then surely being able to have free, unrestricted access to porn could potentially make you more deviant since you are now exposed to new ideas that may not have occurred to you previously? it's like criminals who swop tricks of the trade in jail then become master criminals.

Kevin

3/2/2010 9:07 AM

Sick; are you talking from personal experience? Wipe you mouth because you are just spewing kak. On the contrary, porn quickly loses its appeal. Back in the days when it wasnt freely available, it was a "big issue" to watch, nowdays, very few people make a concerted effort to watch porn. Me thinks its only sick'o's like you who could see porn as a stepping stone to abuse: hence your name sick

Beep

3/2/2010 8:50 AM

Hang on!!! While I agree that there is no correlation (proved through stats and research) that watching porn leads to abuse I think you will find that abuse in the porn manufacturing industry is rife. We are not talking about consenting karma sutra demonstations here. So next time you as couple decide to enjoy some "voyouristic fun with the missus" remember that the 18 yr old (and the performers are as young and "innocent " as is legally allowed) who is getting nailed by three different men or woman could one day be your daughter. If you watch porn you support and grow the industry and don't fool yourself into thinking these young woman and happily making a choice. The same as prostotution. There may be happlily consenting adults but there are far more who are being exploited out of desperation. So Marlon and readers agreable to porn on our TV...will you still support this industry if it is your child being screwed silly by hordes of men and woman for your neigbor to watch. values people...values!!!!!!!

peter

3/2/2010 8:50 AM

What if one argues that NOT having access to porn encourages you to go and rape someone?? Just as stupid as the other way around. Nevertheless, I do have a problem with some porn movies where an element of violence is involved: where you can see the woman is moaning NOT out of pleasure, or where the sex act is used as some kind of a punishment. I say thumbs up for porn with a happy and loving tone, but no violence please. Not even soft violence.

Eric

3/2/2010 8:46 AM

Totally agree with you. Don't want porn, then don't subscribe. How difficult is that to understand. Besides, kids have more than enough ways to get to porn and the joke thereof is that those parents are the ones that believe their kids will NEVER do that!! Lol. Most probably the parents that alway just "dump" their kids at the malls that are the ones most against the channel.

William Wallace

3/2/2010 8:43 AM

Spot on Marlon! There is no connection between porn and sexual abuse! What I do find funny is how the so-called christians always get stuck on adultery and sex... They seem to forget there are NINE other commandments... They will judge you for watching porn but turn around and cheat their customers by overcharging them. But that is fine, as long as your not pomping out of wedlock... WAKE UP!

karen

3/2/2010 8:15 AM

Well said Marlon!

Bit-chi

3/2/2010 8:11 AM

If "violence and murder" are blamed on movies and TV, then what will "porn" be? Basically the same. Exploiting and "disrespecting" women could not be justified in any form or manner and the youngsters will "grow" up looking at it in that light. I have seen various forums where majority men are speaking of woman as though they are "objects" to satisfy their (men) lust, whether by force or not. Oh by the way, ETv already shows porn over weekends, so what is the big hooha about DSTV? Love your articles Marlon.

Bit-chi

3/2/2010 8:08 AM

If "violence and murder" are blamed on movies and TV, then what will "porn" be? Basically the same. Exploiting and "disrespecting" women could not be justified in any form or manner and the youngsters will "grow" up looking at it in that light. I have seen various forums where majority men are speaking of woman as though they are "objects" to satisfy their (men) lust, whether by force or not. Oh by the way, ETv already shows porn over weekends, so what is the big hooha about DSTV? Love your articles Marlon.

SICK!

3/2/2010 8:06 AM

You say porn and sexual abuse are not related. Yet it starts with you innocent soft porn, you get sick of that and switch to a bit more hadcore, then thats not good enough, then men go and watch internet movies which are actual sex abuse recorded by some sick person who started with your "innocent" soft porn. But no, there cant possibly be ANY connection. It shows that women are items and not people. Everyone goes on and on about women and men being equal.......... But NO man sees a woman as an equal when he is watching that crap!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Man

3/2/2010 8:04 AM

Yay, I can't wait!!

Hot White Chick

3/2/2010 7:48 AM

You hit the g-spot with this one Marlon!

cuba

3/2/2010 7:39 AM

this has to be the best article so far about the whole porn channel non-issue

Michel

3/2/2010 7:30 AM

Spot on Marlon!

blackhuff

3/1/2010 12:29 PM

Great article. I agree with Marlon, there are no connection between porn and sexual abuse. Its all in the genes when it comes to sexual abuse and choice. I agree totally with all the things Marlon have said in this article.

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